to answer your question: I’m in 3rd person in most of my dreams and daydreams so it kind of like blacks out (like in a movie) then fades in with the next scene if I fall asleep in a dream. Sometimes i even see what other characters are doing whilst I’m sleeping. It’s kind of like I’m creating a sequel to a movie and my head won’t stop until I get an ending to the film. i still control everything i do in the dream. it’s exhausting, especially if the dreams are close to reality because I can’t tell what’s real sometimes… I’ve never woken up when falling asleep in a dream. I wish i could, that would be so much easier than being constantly half asleep. If i die or something terrifying or traumatic happens, that’s the only way i wake up without being woken up in real life.

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Feel free to add a dream to the database!

any feedback/suggestions on the site would be very much appreciated as well

Here’s the link: opendreamlab.com

Cheers

By the way, being the subject (LD) intrinsecal in a culture means it is in the colective inconscious, that is it’s always there, present. That is exactly like electricity being physically available in the atmosphere to be driven by our bodies.

Knowing that it is there for us is like the placebo effect, that sometimes (because it depends on the person) works for lucid dreaming. I remember the case of the woman that read an article about LD on the newspaper, and thus knowing for the first time she lucid dreamed that very night.

And coming back, if it were a wheel, its amazing how LD takes us to understanding when in the East they talk about a butterfly dreaming a man, or about being asleep while awake…

Thank you.

“…we might not only think about “how to”, but also about physics, cultural habits and human evolution…” – Agree. There is so much to tap into. So little has been explored in those areas. I think this will change though over the next few decades. Lucid dreaming is becoming more and more known through the internet now.

I certainly would like to see more surveys and statistics on how lucid dreaming is impacted by ones cultural background. I think people living in countries with Eastern Philosophies are much more used to lucid dreaming due to their meditation practices and perspectives thereof.

I can’t wait for science to connect quantum physics with the various states of sleep consciousness. 🙂

“…we might not only think about “how to”, but also about physics, cultural habits and human evolution…” – Agree. There is so much to tap into. So little has been explored in those areas. I think this will change though over the next few decades. Lucid dreaming is just becoming more known through the internet now.
I certainly would like to see more surveys and statistics on how lucid dreaming is impacted by ones cultural background. I think people living in countries with Eastern Philosophies are much more used to lucid dreaming due to their meditation practices and perspectives thereof.

I can’t wait for science to connect quantum physics with our various states of consciousness during sleep. 🙂

On the other hand, in modern civilization we are used to isolate ourselves from the ground, by plastic soles, making it not possible for the atmosphere charge to be canalized through us to the ground.

Connecting these statements, we might not only think about “how to”, but also about physics, cultural habits and human evolution.

“…lucid dreamers performed BETTER ON A CREATIVE TASK THAN NON-LUCID DREAMERS, which supports the notion of existing relationship between the ability for lucid dreaming and creativity…” – Tadas Stumbrys, Viktorija Daunytė – International Journal of Dream Research – “Visiting the land of dream muses: The Relationship Between Lucid Dreaming And Creativity” – https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328655719_Visiting_the_land_of_dream_muses_The_relationship_between_lucid_dreaming_and_creativity

“The TYPE 2 system is SLOW, CALCULATING, CONSCIOUS THOUGHT. When you’re doing a difficult math problem or thinking carefully about a philosophical problem, you’re engaging the type 2 system” – Hacker News – quanticle on June 12, 2012 – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4102848

“… The DORSOLATERAL PREFRONTAL CORTEX…Thus, this particular area of the brain that activates during lucid dreams loads heavily on WORKING MEMORY while supporting THEORETICAL THINKING which is necessary for the PLANNING OF FUTURE EVENTS…As far as causality is concerned, it makes sense to assume that the activation of TYPE 2 processing system coincides with the ONSET OF LUCID DREAM…” – An Investigation Of A Dual-Processing Hypothesis Of Lucid Dreaming – Andreea E. Rizea, Josie E. Malinowski – http://roar.uel.ac.uk/6147/1/malinowski.pdf

“…This ability is associated with HIGHER CREATIVITY and a PROCLIVITY FOR DIVERGENT THINKING…The results show that lucid dreamers scored higher on the creative personality scale of the Adjective Checklist and reported a higher DRF than non-lucid dreamers. As to the dream structure, lucid dreamers were more likely to incorporate daytime events into their dreams, and their dreams had a higher personal significance than those of non-lucid dreamers.” – “Relationship between lucid dreaming, creativity, and dream characteristics” – Nicolas Zink & Reinhard Pietrowsky – International Journal of Dream Research Volume 6, No. 2 (2013) – https://journals.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/index.php/IJoDR/article/view/10640

Here is a small paper with some terms I collected to a list about conscious dreaming from the work of Claude Rifat, “Conscious Dreaming And Controlled Hallucinations”.

Links to his work are at the bottom of the attached article.

Excerpt:

“This article is written mostly for people who have the basic knowledge of what conscious dreaming is. This means they have some experiences of conscious dreaming, daydreaming, imaginative visualization, these and other relative concepts are considered known and understood.

To start with, I will list first some terms Claude Rifat used to describe phenomena related to dreams, conscious dreams and in general how our biological memory works. Below the list are parts from Claude’s article [in blue text – everything with black text is my comments] which explain the concepts in the list. The study he made is based on scientific research and with personal observations inside dreams. This is important because until then very few scientists of the mind were exploring consciousness from inside, from the perspective of the dreamer. The study had been written since 1976 until 1989.

When we imagine something or having a memory of something, what we do in neurological level is that we activate a specific memory zone in the brain, and what an expert conscious dreamer do, when he build a scenery for example, is that he have learned to activate and stabilize specific memory zones at will.

The intensity of how vivid is the memory of something, means how much is metabolically active that zone. In comparison of exogenous imagination and endogenus [in a conscious dream] we soon discover that in exogenus, in our natural everyday state, we can imagine only to a certain point and in dreams we can have much stronger visualization to the level of materialization with many senses involved. This is controlled by some regulator mechanisms I will explain below, the attenuator, DRP and SBEM which are responsible for the normal function of our consciousness.

Why we see irrational scenes in dreams or without continuous time sequence? This can be explained with MHV, and MCV “box” concepts along with the previous mechanisms the Attenuator and DRP. So when we are awake, consciously or unconsciously we activate some memory zones, some more and some less intense [with different emotional impression and different meaning each-one so they make different connections with different memory zones involved]. When they are activated they can remain active in the memory for some time [as we imprint in our memory the events some remain and some faint, so when we see a dream of something we would not expect we still remember that but for a reason had stayed in memory. Or we see things that are imprinted with our second unconscious attention]. Now, when we are sleeping the logical reasoning and other functions ceases [not completely and with variations in intensity] but the memory areas are still active and informational objects fall into the oneiric scene, somehow like a collection of unrelated events and objects interacting inside a portion of continuous time of an oneiric episode.

It is not so simple though, because maybe it can be with no logical explanation the sequence of images or the dream scenario, so to seem random but sometimes it follows some internal rules from the instincts or emotional centers, the drives or archetypes, to make some kind of coded symbolic message for our conscious self about a specific matter like a solution to a problem, like a different type of thought processor than everyday rational thinking. Even if usually consciousnes or reasoning are not active but other mechanisms could be driving the dream or are active to involve with the dream.

Claude Rifat was a biologist, his accomplishments include some early research into GHB (γ-Hydroxybutyric acid), including the thymoanaleptic/antidepressant and sociabilising effects of this molecule. So he is referring for examples about cannabinoid hallucinations, cholinergic, hallucinations by NMDA receptors, serotoninergic, and other molecules or about regular state of mind, dreaming state, schizophrenic state etc. I wanted not to write anything about substances but this is his research and I can not just put them out. After all, every serious researcher on the subject who has a real interest to learn has to consider them also which are part of nature.
One last thing I want to mention is that I have not make any official studies on these subjects, I just like to study these concepts in my free time because it happened to have conscious dreams spontaneously and with time I started to interest about the mechanisms of it and finally about the mechanisms that produce our consciousnees and our memory. If some of these are not right, if I have wrong ideas, at least I think this kind of concepts are very interesting and should be studied more. If I have understood Claude’s ideas wrongly please send me a message to know…” – Konstantinos Fakinos

LINK TO ENTIRE ARTICLE:  Claude Rifat’s Concepts From Conscious Dreaming And Controlled Hallucinations

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